But Officer, This Cell Phone Is My Job...
An Interesting Twist to a Dangerous Practice; You Decide!
What happens when a hospice nurse who is on call and is frequently on the job while driving looks down at her cell phone, which lights up indicating an incoming call, gets into an accident? Should she be able to collect worker’s compensation benefits because this is a work related injury?
The Court of Appeals of Virginia recently decided the case in Wythe County Community Hospital and Travelers v. Donna Turpin. Ms. Turpin was a hospice nurse whose duties required her to drive to meet with patients at their homes. On this particular night, she was on call, available by cell phone, which was one of the ways her employer contacted her. She testified that when she received a call or beeper page while driving she would pull over to the side of the road before answering the call.
While on call this evening, Ms. Turpin was driving when her cell phone suddenly illuminated. The light on her phone caught her attention and she looked down for a couple of seconds assuming that it was her employer trying to call her. Her momentary distraction caused her to lose control of the car resulting in an accident which caused her injury.
As part of the opinion, Justice Kelsey wrote: “I agree an on-call employee would be covered under the arising-out-of-employment standard if she actually received a call from her employer. I question whether an on-call employee would be covered if she merely attempted to answer an incoming call that might have been (but in fact, was not) from her employer.”
This Justice further stated that coverage should not be extended to an employee who had “no idea” is she was even receiving a call at all.
Ms. Turpin apparently assumed she was receiving a call and assumed further it was from her employer – despite conceding she has no evidence to support either assumption. Justice Kelsey found that this accident cannot be fairly traced to her employment and she should not be entitled to worker’s compensation benefits.
Justice Kelsey, however, was the dissenting judge writing for the minority.
The majority of the court found that, on the basis of the discrete facts before them, Ms. Turpin’s injury was one that arose out of her employment. Additionally, they stated that when Turpin’s cell phone illuminated, she looked down to see if the call was from her employer. Her job, the court reasoned, required her to monitor her cell phone at all times, including while driving.
Further, Turpin’s employer frequently contacted her on her cell phone and her friends and family did not. On that basis, the majority found, on those specific facts, that there was a causal connection between Ms. Turpin’s injury and the conditions under which the employer required the work to be performed. Therefore, the Court found that Ms. Turpin was entitled to Worker’s Compensation benefits.
Although this is not precedent for Connecticut cases, it is interesting to note the Virginia Court's finding. What do you think?
Richard P. Hastings is a Connecticut personal injury lawyer at Hastings, Cohan & Walsh, LLP, with offices throughout the state. A graduate of Fordham Law School, he has been named a Connecticut Super Lawyer and is the author of the books: "The Crash Course on Child Injury Claims"; "The Crash Course on Personal Injury Claims in Connecticut" and "The Crash Course on Motorcycle Accidents." He has also co-authored the best selling book "Wolf in Sheep's Clothing- What Your Insurance Company Doesn't Want You to Know and Won't Tell You Until It's Too Late!" He can be reached at 1(888)CTLAW-00 or by visiting www.hcwlaw.com.
Peter
11:30 pm on Sunday, November 20, 2011
I disagree with the decision made by the court.
Hypothetical that comes to mind:
My employer asks me to go to a bank and come back with some cash for the petty cash drawer. So I go to the bank, pull out a gun and rob the bank. I get shot in the process. But it was never my employers intention that I rob the bank. My employer meant for me to make a legit withdrawal from the company bank account. Should I get workers comp because I foolishly broke the law and got hurt in the process? No, of course not. But isn't that what happened with the cell phone? An employer wanted the woman to be accessible by cell phone, but the employer wasn't expecting nor asking the employee to break the law and participate in an act of distracted driving. When the phone rang, the employee should have pulled over before dealing with the phone. I think the benefit of the doubt should go to the employer. There is an implied understanding that an employer expects the employee to do a job within the bounds of the law. In fact, it is probably written in the company handbook. If the employee chooses to go outside the bounds of the law (which in the this case meant disobeying the distracted driving laws) , the employer shouldn't be held responsible.
The courts decision has opened a can of worms on a few levels.
"Your honor, I was thinking about work on a Saturday when I tripped and fell down the stairs. I deserve workers comp."
Luca Duff Cruz
1:26 am on Monday, November 21, 2011
peter,
terrible analogy.
First, there are usually exceptions for answering a cell phone in a medical emergency, so your assertion about the employer asking to break the law, is unfounded. Im not familiar with Virginia law--but I would guess its at worst borderline.
Next, to compare a felony to a parking violation to draw a comparison is simply inane.
The judge threw me in prison for life because I killed someone. Thats like getting a life sentence for parking in a no parking zone. No--it isnt. There are distinctions between understanding where the law allows for an employee may be put in situations where non-violent offenses may occur.
A limo driver that is injured while speeding for an employer who is rushing to make a plane, is not the same as a armed robbery. In the case of a limo driver, I would expect that the courts would find in his favor.
If she received 25 calls whilst driving and 23 were from her employer , who required her to answer--then it stands to reason that she needs to monitor her phone and the employer bears at least some responsibility for her behavior.
The solution for her, was to never look at her phone while driving, which it sounds like would have put her job in jeopardy. Im never for escaping responsibility, but in this case, it sounds as though she was acting in a manner that she believed was part of her job description. I think the court was correct.
Ray D.
7:01 am on Tuesday, November 22, 2011
Oh Please there a device called BLUETOOTH its $20 and you dont have to look at your phone.. just touch your ear and say HELLO..
Ray D.
9:33 am on Tuesday, November 22, 2011
Luca 1 hand for a sec.. like when you turn radio knob.. moron...
Luca Duff Cruz
11:25 am on Tuesday, November 22, 2011
ahh thanks ray.
How long do you think it takes to look at your phone to push the 'on' button?
An answer would be appreciated. You want to call me a name--thats fine. But im thinking that pushing on button is seriously not that time consuming.
But go ahead Ray--let me know. YOu are the smart guy. Thanks Ray.
Ray D.
11:29 am on Tuesday, November 22, 2011
Again you dont look at anything.. You take 1 hand off the wheel push your bluetooth on your ear .. then put your hand back on wheel takes 1-2 sec.. thats it you never take eyes off road its very easy..
Luca Duff Cruz
11:39 am on Tuesday, November 22, 2011
Im asking how long does it take to have a non-bluetooth phone --and answer it.
The woman in the article said she normally answers the phone, then pulls over to talk.
So ray, if it takes 1 second to answer a blue tooth. How much longer does it take to push the 'accept' button on your phone? More than 3 seconds?
Ray D.
11:50 am on Tuesday, November 22, 2011
Luca You are exhausting.. Talking on a cell while driving is illegal If people want to talk on the phone while driving buy a bluetooth and keep your eyes on the road.. PERIOD.. im done...
Charlie
12:28 pm on Tuesday, November 22, 2011
Michael Gibney, I really wish you could do something about this forum. It reflects badly on all of RIdgefield. Look at the things being said in this thread. I know it is not your fault Michael, but I'm going to be honest with you - the Patch showed up in our town and has become a catalyst for this type of behavior. This is not right in my view. Same people over and over being allowed to make our town look ridiculous. Either take your website and be gone, or, and I'd rather this be the solution, don't allow this kind of unpleasant bantering on the forum. Please be a good new neighbor Michael.
Charlie
12:29 pm on Tuesday, November 22, 2011
PS - Michael I see some of the thread has been deleted. I don't know if that was you or the original posters takiong out the troubling posts. But the fact that these posts existsed even for a short while is still very disturbing. Please consider banning people.
SD67
3:30 pm on Tuesday, November 22, 2011
Mr. Gibney,
I concur with Charlie. i used to want to be engaged with your site because it seemed like a good place to get local news and interact with neighbors about town. Unfortunately, your site has become over taken by Luca and people like him. You need to intervene. I saw a couple of postings where people have tried to address these concerns directly, but for naught.
The next step for me is to express this concern to the business that advertise here. I know a couple of the store owners and am certain they are unaware this is where they are trying to reach customers.
Michael Gibney
5:02 pm on Tuesday, November 22, 2011
Thank you for your concern. We are doing our best to make this a civil place for conversation. Feel free to flag any comments that appear to fall outside of our terms of service -- that way, they will be brought to our attention more quickly. -MG
SD67
10:37 am on Wednesday, November 23, 2011
@MG-
It is sad that immediately after your post on this forum, you see what people have done. It is also sad to see one of my favorite and oft visited restaurants advertised at the bottom. I will speak to the owners of the Little Pub this weekend when I see them.
Charlie
5:22 pm on Tuesday, November 22, 2011
I don't know you from beans Michael, but sometimes the best advice comes from strangers. Here is my take on how the internet forum business works. Goal: You want traffic. If you pander to troublemakers, you will get trouble makers. More specifically, you will get a small handful of troublemakers. Nothing more because other people walk away in disgust. There seems to be a corporate dilemma about stopping the troublemakers because at first glance you don't want to lose this traffic. But something to consider, if you do stop the troublemakers, yes you will lose the small handful of traffic, but you will eventually get 100 people or 1,000 people in their place. Headquarters needs to decide, do you want a small handful of people, all of them trouble makers, or do you want 1,000 more reasonable people. I know what the advertisers want.
Here's a thought, what if you simply require people to use real names. People behave better when they aren't so anonymous. Is there any overriding reason why people can't be asked to use real names? We use real names everyday in the real world. Why not on this forum. And if they don't use a real name, for example, if the rest of us can show there is no one in the phone book or on the tax rolls with the poster's name, then ban the person. Simple. Effective. Free. Even makes you more money because more people will be attracted to your website.
Luca Duff Cruz
7:22 pm on Tuesday, November 22, 2011
thanks charlie.
1)...the man called me a name.
2)Why dont you practice what you preach? Use a real name? its a real question. I am hoping you dont say its not required, or that you fear reprisal..because a man so enveloped in his principles should stand up for them---not tell other people what to do, whilst participating under the groundrules that he disagrees with.
Im fine that people call me names. I responded, then deleted my own posts, because I decided I didnt want to engage Ray D on the basis of name calling.
I debate points--and I often disagree- Sure. but it sounds as though you want everyone to agree with your sense of values and your ideology that demands everyone agree with one another. If thats the case, these boards would be boring.
You read them--and perhaps you post under a different name charlie? Either that, or why is your first post today? Its odd that a guy calling for real names, seems to use different names .
I posted on here with this email address a year ago--and have never once received spam --so the concept I have read, that "i change my name because i dont want spam seems to be wrong.
Ron orson
5:51 pm on Tuesday, November 22, 2011
Peter you are correct because in this state if you are commuting to work and have a fender bender you are covered under your employer. All of this rubbish needs to be thrown out. But one has to wonder who appointed the judges? That is the key to the issue. Now as far as i am concerned she does not get a dime because since when does an employer have the authority to circumvent state law. That ruling should be appealed to a higher court.
Charlie
8:32 pm on Tuesday, November 22, 2011
Luca, my real name is Charlie, although I think the last time I posted a few months ago I might have used Charles. I would be glad to use my first and last name as soon as the Patch agrees this is the new rule everyone must follow. I have no need to hide from my posts. I might add, I have lurked in the background long enough to understand you don't use your real name, no part of Luca or Abelino is real correct? Does it strike you as odd that you don't use your real name but you are criticizing me for actually using my real name?
Luca Duff Cruz
12:14 am on Wednesday, November 23, 2011
No charlie.
I am fine with no real names. YOu are the one who is asking patch to change their policy. And im thinking if you honestly believe its the right thing to do, then you should exhibit that moral pedestal you desire to stand on--and show patch readers that you practice what you preach.
I preach not lying. Not twsiting facts in order to achieve an agenda. And --as such--I never lie. It would be hypocritical for me to do otherwise.
What I am guessing, "charlie" is that you actually want to see who the other people are , on patch, so you can attack them. If you actually thought it was a good idea to state your real name--then you simply should. I am fine with anonymous names, but I think someone should not change their name on here, so as to achieve an objective of appearing to be in the majority or in agreement with yourself. You obviously change your name---so, I would put you in that category.
You can see i post often and have done so for close to a year now. There is no doubt what I am saying. No one agrees with me on this thread for example--because I dont need to have people agree with me. So --once again-what i ask of others-i do myself. That, charlie is where you are not consistent.
So either state your real name--or allow for others, as you do, to use fake names.
Im for fake names. It allows for more candid conversations--and guys like Ray D-can get their 'moron' name calling in--it doesnt really affect me. Not one iota.
Luca Duff Cruz
12:11 pm on Wednesday, November 23, 2011
sd67
I go to the little pub a lot. So maybe ill see you there.
Its great and I am friends with the owners. I will ask them to continue advertising on patch as patch allows people to exchange ideas on various town matters.
Your desire to censor is unAmerican--but in any event--Im sure that the Little Pub will be happy to listen to my overtures of how the patch has allowed Ridgefield to expand its horizons on opinion exchanges.